Banned? - 2008/01/26 21:12 .:Rock:. banned me from the CoD4 server because he thinks I hack. I would like to see the proof of me hacking. I find what he did was rude. Not only that he threatened me on XFire telling me I better remove him from my list or I will be banned from ever server. I do not have and never will I hack. I would like my ban to be reviewed and proof that I was hacking.
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Re:Banned? - 2008/01/27 00:43 Purity:
I'll contact the members that were there at the time of your ban, to see why they banned you and if they have any proof.
By the way, I thought COD4 had an anticheat, or not ?
Please clarify me. - " Intelligent people talks about ideas, Average people talks about things, Small people talks about other people. " -
I'll contact the members that were there at the time of your ban, to see why they banned you and if they have any proof.
By the way, I thought COD4 had an anticheat, or not ?
Please clarify me.
its does risky called punk buster, but its not the greatest in the world..it catchs most hackers but not all
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Re:Banned? - 2008/01/27 10:54 Well Punkbuster would have no reason to catch me hacking because I don't. It was .:Rock:. that banned me saying I hacked. If my ban is going to remain then I would like to see the proof that I hacked. I will even record me playing to prove that I don't.
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Re:Banned? - 2008/01/27 11:42 im just saying....but u cant record urself playing to prove you dont hack....its easy to just turn the hacks off and record.....just saying
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Re:Banned? - 2008/01/27 11:48 ALL anti cheats have ways to get around them.
DMW has a program you can load that looks in every way like you have DMW running and IN your computer running, but really you dont, even when you take a screenshot, the screeny show you have DMW and it is running.
My personal opinion is that if you think someone is hacking, SPEC them, if it is prevelant that they are, BAN them, if it is questionable, get a witness and then decided amongst you two.
The best ANTI cheat is specing someone, my opinion.
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Re:Banned? - 2008/01/27 13:03 Bloodwake wrote: im just saying....but u cant record urself playing to prove you dont hack....its easy to just turn the hacks off and record.....just saying
You want to come over and watch me play? I don't hack. I never hacked. Nor will I ever hack. In my opinion .:Rock:. was just mad that I was owning both you and him in most of the maps I played on. Plus he never spec'd me so how would he know I was hacking?
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Re:Banned? - 2008/01/27 13:03 Purity wrote: Well Punkbuster would have no reason to catch me hacking because I don't. It was .:Rock:. that banned me saying I hacked. If my ban is going to remain then I would like to see the proof that I hacked. I will even record me playing to prove that I don't.
never said it was, risky asked isnt there a anti cheat and i answer his question
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Re:Banned? - 2008/01/27 13:11 dont think your reaction to this is going to help you, i never accused you of hacking so dont go and disrespect me for no reason, and you need to ease off rock also
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Re:Banned? - 2008/01/27 14:40 Bloodwake wrote: dont think your reaction to this is going to help you, i never accused you of hacking so dont go and disrespect me for no reason, and you need to ease off rock also
I have never disrespected you Bloodwake. And .:Rock:. needs to lay off me. I asked one question and he threatens me saying, "If you don't remove me from your list right now you will be banned from all 65th servers."
Don't have to believe me, you never have before. I know you will choose 65th over me anytime.
Risky, I'm leaving the reviewing of my bannishment up to you and to whom that banned me. If there is proof I would like to request to view it also. I wish to be part of =[65th]= only if I am cleared from the label "Hacker".
Sincerely, Purity
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Re:Banned? - 2008/01/27 21:10 After a careful review of the screenshots with Smokey we found NO evidence of hacking.
So, Purity accept our apologies and sorry for the inconviniences it may cause to you.
Well Rock have his "well known" temper and maybe he was defending the clan values, and maybe your reaction was in the expected way, you was mad. No ones who play fair doesn;t like to be called a "hacker". So, both reactions are completely understandable.
Disrespect from both sides, from the 65ths and Purity are not justified. But, I will ask you all involved to leave your feelings apart and try to manage clan situations with Objectivity.
Clan Business is a virtual world and real life is your private world. Don't let situations from the real world to affect your virtual life. So, I dont see why I have to insult a "hacker" or "cheater". I dont know him and he dont care...so it is a waste of time. Viceversa, if I am accused for being a hack and Im sure that Im not a hack, ill get mad for sure.
So, Cool it down and as Officers try to be OBJECTIVE in clan business.
Thanks!
P.S. Purity you can ask Smokey to send those screenies to you. He will be more than pleased to forward it to you. Have a good day. - " Intelligent people talks about ideas, Average people talks about things, Small people talks about other people. " -
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Re:Banned? - 2008/01/28 10:33 I had a guy accuse me of hacking one night. I took it as a compliment.
Of course, the way I've been playing lately no one will suspect me of hacking.
"How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?"
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Re:Banned? - 2008/01/28 11:25 CHEATZAR!!! I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my father, not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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Re:Banned? - 2008/02/01 22:10 I just saw this. The guy was hacking. Proof...is hard to come by in COD4. Smokey and I researched the ability to hack without detection extensively on the internet. I've been playing on line games for a looong time and I don't (necessarily) need an anti cheat method to detect a cheater.
For $99 bux and an internet connection you can be a life member to several cheat clubs.
I will not put the locations of these clubs in this post. But, as I said Smokey and I researched this and it can easily be done.
Through our research we found our own club to help in the fight against cheaters like (cough) "purity".
Someone should have contacted me before this ban was lifted. If I see him on the server, I will change my name and spec him till I catch him, which shouldn't take long, and he will be banned yet again. Cheaters always get caught.
Your $99 bux doesn't render our experience useless... Better to fight for something than live for nothing. George S. Patton
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Re:Banned? - 2008/02/02 06:38 Purity wrote: .:Rock:. banned me ...Not only that he threatened me on XFire telling me I better remove him from my list or I will be banned from ever server.
Also, Here is the unedited conversation on xifre that Karbon/Purity initiated, please note that I neither initiated the conversation or threatened him, confirming that fact that cheaters are also liars. Conversation started between .:Rock:. and !rF![GoA]Pur!ty: Sat, Jan 26 21:08:11 2008 [21:08] !rF![GoA]Pur!ty: Did you ban me? [21:08] .:Rock:.: your a hack dude, take me off your list [21:08] !rF![GoA]Pur!ty: HOW AM I A HACK?! [21:08] .:Rock:.: TAKE ME OFF THE LIST [21:14] !rF![GoA]Pur!ty: Prove to me I was hacking and I'll remove you. [21:14] .:Rock:.: you nm, when i get done i'll remove you... [21:26] !rF![GoA]Pur!ty: Dude, hate for all you want' I just would like to know what proof you have that I was hacking? Conversation ended: Sat, Jan 26 21:30:31 2008
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This means little in COD4, however. Rock and I researched Punkbuster, then looked at many sites about hacks for COD4. It's alarming just what these punks have.
Specing is by far, IMHO, the best tool for catching hacks.
Purity, you have me just a bit ticked off right now. Your arrogance is not well taken by me. I promise to be perfectly fair and spec you 'til my nose bleeds. Say one thing inflammatory, you will be banned. Look suspicious enough, you will be banned. You will receive no merciful consideration by me.
Your demands don't mean squat. And your argumentive, s*** disurbing nature makes you someone I really don't want to game with.
'Nough said... "Going cold turkey isn't as delicious as it sounds." -Homer Simpson
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Re:Banned? - 2008/02/12 23:16 If you seriously think I hack the just ban me. I HATE hackers and wished that their PC's would melt because of it. I've been playing FPS games a lot too and I know what hacks look like. I have never downloaded and used hacks before nor will I ever start. Spec me till end of time, you will never catch what was never there to begin with. Smokey, I never done anything to you but if you wish to have no part of me then okay, I'll leave you be.
And if this gets me banned from the forums too the so be it.
Rock, two words, Anger Management.
P.S. My PC was built to play CoD4 and Crysis with no lag. I have over 1gb of video buffer and surround sound Gaming Sound Card. I hear things very well and see clearly with no video lag. I will fraps every second I play on the server and send every demo to you if you want. EVERY SECOND. To prove that I am just good and no hacks.
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Re:Banned? - 2008/02/12 23:43 Also, Here is the unedited conversation on xifre that Karbon/Purity initiated, please note that I neither initiated the conversation or threatened him, confirming that fact that cheaters are also liars.
I may have initiated that conversation, but remember, you just initiated this topic again. I don't know what you have against me. EVEN YOUR LEADER SAID I WAS CLEAN!
I'm glad to know your gifted to search and find undetectable hacks. Who's not to say you toggle them? I think you should understand real skill versus hacks.
Sorry Risky for this feud. If you want to remove me from the site, forums and servers then go ahead.
Here is my PC specs (yes it does matter because I don't get lag): (1) AMD AM2 6000+ Dual Core Processor (1) ATHLON 1600 FSB SLI Motherboard (1) 4GB Micron DDR2 RAM (1) Dual Layer DVD Burner Drive (1) 320GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive (1) All-In-One Digital Card Reader (1) 56K Data/Fax Modem (1) 3D Wavetable Sound (2) 512MB 8600 GT PCI-E Video Cards (SLI) (7) 2.0 USB Ports (2 In Front) (1) 10/100 Network Card (1) Viper ATX Case With 575W Power Supply (1) Red Cables (For Show) (1) Red Lights (For Show)
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Re:Banned? - 2008/02/13 03:03 I have played against Purity many times, and I have to say, that I have never known him to cheat. If he has been cheating, he hides it well, because I have beat him many times also.
This is not to say that I know for sure that he is not cheating, just that he has never given me reason to believe that he is. And if he is, then what in the hell do we have Punk Buster running for. The only thing that I have seen Punk Buster do, is kick me (lately everytime I get into the game), and force me to reboot in order to play. I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my father, not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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Re:Banned? - 2008/02/13 11:05 If Bigwig says ¨that I have never known him to cheat¨, I have to back up Bigwig decision.
Also, I have to make clear that I hates the cheaters...and sometimes the specing thing only is the wrong way. We have committed wrong accusations in the past and all you know it....and those wrong accusations makes people mad.
Please fix the PunkBuster issue. Next time if you have a different point of view email me, do not post here after my final decision. It will be appreciated to show people that we have effective communication here in our clan. - " Intelligent people talks about ideas, Average people talks about things, Small people talks about other people. " -
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Re:Banned? - 2008/02/13 11:51 And, I am not saying that the people that accused him are wrong, but we have to have a way to backup what we are saying. If not with some sort of anti cheat software, then screen shots or something. There have been many time that I have been accused of cheating on other server (even our own), and was banned from two before I joined 65th, and like Csaszar says, "I wouldn't even know how to cheat." Of course, one of those bannings might have been due to the user name I had before Bigwig. (Not suitable for posting in the forums.) I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my father, not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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Re:Banned? - 2008/02/16 18:38 Purity, I know I spoke harshly, but the contentius tone of your post set me off... Peace.
With the new server, we will be installing an MD5 Tool. With PB, we should have very effective hack control. "Going cold turkey isn't as delicious as it sounds." -Homer Simpson
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Re:Banned? - 2008/02/16 23:49 So if that doesn't kick me then I am clean? Or would I still be considered a hacker?
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